Friday, April 3, 2026

The Move Begins!

 


Last week, The Fowler House Moving Company began to move equipment to the present site of the Tiner Hendrick House in Sutherland Springs and began the immense preparations of securing the house to be moved the 3 1/2 miles down the road to the place it will finally stand, just down from the Polley Mansion, Whitehall. It will stand behind a lovely copse of live oak trees, looking through the trees to the Cibolo Creek below. The older portion of the house will look across the field to the Polley Mansion, where Connie Tiner's grandmother and grandfather lived and where she spent many hours of her childhood and, as an adult, tended her grandmother, Mary Bailey Polley, during her last weeks of life.

It has taken a lot of work to get to this place, and it will take many more hours of work to get the Tiner Hendrick House restored to the way it looked when Jesse Tiner finished construction on the house in 1887. A lot has already happened.

  •  We became aware that the present owner intended to destroy the house to build a more accommodating structure. The house had always been admired by locals and we began to research a way to save the house.
  • The house was evaluated by Preservation Texas to determine its value and its ability to survive a move. Preservation Texas affirmed these things and in 2025 placed the house on the 2025 List of Most Endangered Places in Texas.
  • We began to investigate a new location. At first we contemplated moving the house just a few blocks away to county property. The Wilson County Commissioner's Court granted that move. Eventually, a spot near the Polley Mansion became available, and it was decided that we would move forward with trying to locate the house near the Polley Mansion, where the two examples of architecture in the county could be viewed side by side—one, a stone house from the 1850s and the other, a wooden house from the 1880s, both connected by family and holding over one hundred years of the history of Wilson County.
  • We created a committee composed of Tiner and Hendrick family members, local historians, members of the board of the Sutherland Springs Historical Museum, and the owners of the new site for the Tiner Hendrick House.
  • We began to raise funds for the enterprise. Wilson County Historical Society gave $50,000. The Maeckel Family matched that gift. Other Tiner and Hendrick family members have given substantial gifts, and we received gifts from other community members and other interested historians. Recently we have additionally received some large gifts from the Tiner and Maeckel families. We thank you all so much.
  • We solicited bids from five house movers and finally settled on Fowler's.
  • We cleaned out the house. This was quite a messy job. It had accumulated a lot of debris over the years and had become the roost for vultures, raccoons, and who knows what else. Along the way, we discovered names of lumber companies and brick makers.
  • We also became aware that the building of the house was minutely documented by Jesse Tiner in the 300 page diary that he wrote in 1886-1889. Other diaries have also come to light, revealing more glimpses into the history of the time. An excerpt from an 1882 Tiner diary revealed that he built the small house in 1882 and Mr. Tudyck, who had built the chimney in the two-story house had also built the chimney in the small house. Another 300 page diary from 1898-1899 revealed many other interesting stories about the Tiner's life in the community of Sutherland Springs. We were also loaned diaries from the Hendrick family recounting parts of their stories when they lived in Stockdale and in Ireland before they moved into the house. 
  • Keith Muschalek lead out in the deconstruction necessary for the move, removing an add on wash room at the end of the small house. 
  • We hired Curtis Hunt Restorations, a local company to remove the chimneys. Their work was amazing. They took down the stones one by one, numbered them, placed them on pallets, and transported them to the new site. All this work was documented on a digital map of the chimneys. We do not have the funds at this time to pay for the rebuilding of the chimneys. However, when those funds become available the chimneys will be reconstructed just like Mr. Tudyck did in 1882 and 1887.
  • Trejo Framing Company deconstructed the porches on both houses, saving as much of the lumber as possible. We found lumber company names marked on the lumber and square nails in much of the construction, indicating that most of that construction on the porches was original to 1882 and 1887. Trejo Framing Company will reconstruct the porches after the move.
  • Members of the committee have removed screen doors, doors, windows, stairs, rails, banisters, shutters, and hardware, carefully storing those items to be returned in the reconstruction.
  •  Right now the house looks a little ravished, with gaping holes where the chimneys and breezeways were. The truncated house without its porches lacks the Southern hospitality that once welcomed visitors. The roof looks a little tattered and piecemeal. We discovered a layer of wood shingles, nailed with square nails, a layer of composite asphalt shingles added later, and a tin roof put on top of all of them even later. In spite of all the necessary degradation, the house feels amazingly solid and sturdy inside. Jesse Tiner built a good house.
  • Hastings Construction has prepared the site to received the house. One more interesting fact is that the land on which the house will sit once belonged to John and Shirley Grammer, rather famous local historians. 
  • The last two jobs left are to topple a small brick chimney on the east side of the house that supported two wood stoves and to remove all the doors and windows from the second floor. Because the house is two-stories and will not fit under the power lines, it is necessary for the movers to cut the house horizontally and move the two-story house in at least two pieces.
  • Over the next weeks Fowler House Movers will prepare the house for the move, move the house, and settle it in its new place, binding its cuts back together. Eventually, the porches and chimneys will be rebuilt, and a new roof will cover it all. The Tiner Hendrick House will welcome the community back to tell her stories once again, old stories and new ones.  


 

Saturday, March 21, 2026

Joseph Tudyck's Chimneys


Brick and Stone Chimney on the New House (1887)

 

Stone Chimney on the little house (1882)

We have been working for several weeks preparing the Tiner Hendrick House for its move to its new place to stand, near the Polley Mansion, Whitehall. 

 



However, work began in earnest this week, removing the two stone and brick chimneys that had stood for 144 years. We have enlisted Curtis Hunt Restorations, Inc., a local company, to remove the chimneys. They take photographs of the chimneys and feed that information into a computer program that maps each of the stones. The workers are now carefully removing the stones one by one, labeling them with a number, and stacking them on a pallet. Half of the larger chimney is composed of 2000 bricks that Mr. Tiner got from A. R. Stevenson in exchange for the payment of a debt for two mares. You can read more about the story in "Sticks and Stones," an earlier blog. Later the stones and bricks will be wrapped in plastic and moved to the new site, awaiting the time when they can be rebuilt. Curtis Hunt Restorations was gracious enough to provide two bids for us; one to deconstruct the chimneys and one to reconstruct the chimneys later after the house is moved. We do not have the funds yet to reconstruct the chimneys. If you would like to contribute to the reconstruction of the chimneys, you can click on the amount you would like to donate in the column on the right or type in the amount that you can give. You can also contact me to discuss your donation at mjcreech@mac.com. 

You can see the progress that has been made this week in deconstructing the chimneys.




 

 




In my earlier blog "Sticks and Stones" you can read about Mr. Joseph Tudyck's construction of the chimney on the new house. With the help of Sandy Mitchell, he constructed the chimney in 11 days and the total cost was $75, $38.25 labor, $36.75 materials.

We were not sure who had constructed the smaller house or its chimney. We knew it was older, because the Tiner family was living in the smaller house while the new house was being built. I thought perhaps it was built by Jack Sutherland, who was a former owner of the property. However, last week I found 16 pages from an 1882 diary written by Jesse Tiner. It cleared up a few things. Mr. Tiner himself built the house between 1880 and 1882. 

 

Jesse and Connie were married in 1879. 

 


The 1880 Census finds them living at the Peyton Warren Hotel in Sutherland Springs. 


Connie's mother Susan Rebecca Polley Henderson Brooks is also living in the hotel with her husband, 2 year old Joseph, and 7 month old Mary. Connie's first child, Lane, would be born in November. 

These randomly photocopied pages from the journal indicate that Mr. Tiner moved down to his place in Sutherland Springs in January 1882. Elnora, their second child, was born on August 10th. Mr. Joseph Tudyck (Tiner spells his name Toodick), along with his assistant Oscar Palm, began work on the little chimney on October 16. He finished the work on October 23. The chimney was 21 1/2 feet high, He was paid $100 per foot, for a total cost of $21.50. It took 7 days to complete. His assistant, Oscar Palm earned 75¢ a day.

I tried to learn a bit about Mr. Joseph Tudyck, resident of St. Hedwig. I found out that he was married to Petronella Kosub, and that he was the great uncle of Allen Kosub, one of our excellent local historians. Allen has a great website called Lost Texas Roads. Allen Kosub reports: "We can document Joseph’s brick work in the first church built in 1868 in St. Hedwig and his own house in St. Hedwig.  Attached is a wedding photo circa 1890 taken with the old church as a back drop.   We believe that he built numerous chimneys in the area.  His specialty was building with 'rubble and partially dressed' native sandstone."  

 


What a neat thought to consider that Allen Kosub's great uncle Joseph was the last one to touch those stones 144 years ago until they were carefully removed from the chimney last week by the workers from Curtis Hunt Restorations: Armando, Jesse, Manuel, Omar, and Dani. Thank all you artisans for your great work.

The diary recounts on Oct 3 that they need "one load of white rock from the Cibolo for the back of fire place." Jesse Tiner, George Neely, and Oscar Palm collected the red sandstone from his own property. We have evidence to suggest that these red sandstone rocks may have been used in the construction of the mission chapel for El Rancho del Paistle, the mission ranch of Mission Concepcion in the mid 1700s. That's another story for another time. So other hands may have collected and stacked those stones into a mission chapel before nature disassembled them, and they found their way into Mr. Tudyck's chimneys on the Tiner House.

Saturday, February 28, 2026

Sticks and Stones

 

Tiner House, ca. 1890

After purchasing the land from W. T. Sutherland in 1884, Tiner and his family lived in the little house for a few years before they began construction on the “new house” in 1887. Many details of the construction of the house are described in the Journal for 1886-1889 — securing the lumber for the house, hauling live oak stumps sawn off the old county bridge to be used in the foundation of the house (10 January 1887), cutting foundation blocks and buying lumber from San Antonio Lumber Company (28 January 1887), restacking the purchased lumber with planks between so that it would not mold (3 March 1887), exchanging 2000 bricks to be used in his chimney from A. R. Stevenson in trade for a debt of 2 mares (23 March 1887), working on new house (19 April 1887), sizing sleepers and upper joists (20 April 1887), putting out fire in the kitchen of old house that threatened the new house (10 July 1887), putting covering on the new house (10 July 1887), buying flooring and paint from San Antonio Lumber Company (10 July 1887), framing windows and doors (26 July 1887), finishing the first window casing (12 August 1887), buying more lumber and paint from San Antonio (14 August 1887), finishing laying flooring and side ceiling downstairs, planning to finish downstairs this fall, upstairs next summer (21 August 1887), reporting house is half complete, although they moved in last month, with no doors finished, only two windows, two lower rooms and halls sealed on sides, but not overhead, all floors laid upstairs and downstairs (28 August 1887), S. R. Houston working on house (26 September 1887), Bro. Dick  painting house (8 October 1887), beginning work on chimney, rock and brick, double fireplace, upstairs and downstairs (18 October 1887), building chimney, three feet underground, up to five feet now (21 October 1887), painting the house with lead color paint (21 October 1887), finishing new chimney thirty-two feet (30 October 1877), graving the downstairs hall doors (23 November 1887), installing lightening rod and weather vanes on house (15 February 1888), finishing carpentry work on house (20 March 1888), underpinning dining room gallery and end of dwelling with rock (24 March 1888), connecting dining room and dwelling and covering stair way (25 March 1888), working on door frames to the doors at the stair way (29 March 1888), Mr. Houston still working on house (6 April 1888), working on banisters for stairs (8 April 1888), needing to work on upstairs ceiling, windows in north of house, banister, and stairs (12 April 1888), working on banister (15 and 18 April 1888), painting new house (15 June 1888), working on stairs (18 and 21 July 1888), still lacking some finishing upstairs, front gallery banisters, and boxing gallery past ceiling (14 November 1888).

We have been cleaning up the Tiner Hendrick House in preparation for its move to its new location near the Polley Mansion. We have uncovered several interesting discoveries regarding the lumber, bricks, chimneys, and shutters.

Yesterday we discovered this brick in the fireplace.

 The Laclede Fire Brick Manufacturing Company, established in St. Louis in 1844, was a major producer of fireclay bricks. They were used to line the fireboxes of steam locomotives. Jesse Tiner's cotton gin and grist mill were near the Depot in Sutherland Springs. I wonder if he got the discarded fireplace bricks from there.

The two chimneys in the house and the foundation of the house were comprised a large red stones. Local historians feel confident that the old mission church from El Rancho del Paistle was located nearby. I wonder if some of these stones were collected from those ruins. This stone chimney in the smaller house, probably built by Jack Sutherland, may have been constructed using those stones.

The larger chimney on the main house is half stone, half brick. We know that Jesse Tiner bartered a debt with A. R. Stevenson for two mares for 2000 bricks for his new chimney. Here are his entries in the diary about the building of the chimney.
 
Wednesday March 23 [1887]
Bro Dick & Sandy Mitchel
Hauling 2000 Brick from
Floresville where I got
Said amt. from A. R. Stevenson
For a debt of $20.00 he owed
Me for near 2 yrs for 2 colts.
They are very good Brick. I
Want them to build chimney
to my new house if I ever get it up

Mar 25 Friday
Bro Dick and Sandy Mitchel
Gone after last load of brick.
Some they left on the road
This side of Floresville
When this load arrives I will
Have 2000 here for my chimney
To the new house if I ever get
It up

Tuesday 18th October. 1887
Mr. Joe Tudick came
Yesterday evening and
Commenced work on Chimney
To my new house. I pay him
For rock work $1.50 and for
Brick work $1.00 per foot as it 
Is a double fireplace fireplace
Both down and up Srairs
Sandy Mitchell (colored) 
Commenced work today
Helping Mr. Tudick on Chimney.
Making Mortar and carrying
rock, Brick and & so forth

1887 Friday October 21
Mr. Joe Tudyck is
Getting along very well
On my chimney. Has it 
about 5 feet above the ground
And commenced 3 feet under
Ground making it all some
8 feet since he commenced on
Tuesday Morn.

1887 Brought over Oct 30
Mr. Joe Tydyk finished
My new Chimney on yesterday
Height 32 feet $1.50 for rock
And $1.00 for brick work & I 
furnish a waiter. There was 
19 1/2  feet brick and balance
Rock double chimney - two
Fire places. Will cost all told
Near $75.00 including the 
material.

If my math is correct, the total time to construct the chimney was 11 days and the total cost was $75, $38.25 labor, $36.75 materials.
 
Here you can see some of the foundation stones under the house.

Our cost to move the chimneys will be significantly more than Jesse Tiner paid to build them. Each stone has to be numbered, disassembled, stored on pallets, conveyed to the new site, and eventually reassembled. We need your help in preserving these historic chimneys. Please donate to the Tiner Hendrick House Restoration Fund on the right side of this blog or contact me at mjcreech@mac.com. Please help!

Jesse Tiner says in his diary that he bought the lumber for the house from the San Antonio Lumber Company.  We found these names on pieces of lumber in the ceiling joists.

 

I couldn't quite read all the letters, but what I could read says "Lumber Yard E Commerce."

This lumber reads "Calcasieu." Calcasieu Lumber Company was started by the Drake Brothers in Austin in 1883. It was named after a parish in Louisiana where superior lumber was harvested. Mr. Albert Steves had a lumber yard near the Sunset Station, on the corner of E. Commerce and Travis, in San Antonio, that sold Calcasieu lumber. The Daily Express, 18 December 1887, describes Mr. Steves enterprise:

Daily Express, 18 December 1887
 

This 1889 Sanborn map shows the location of the both the San Antonio Lumber Yard and the Mr. Steves' Lumber Company. Jesse Tiner probably did business with one or both of these companies.

 
We were also able to take down all the shutters from the windows in the house to be repaired and reattached after the move. The shutters are ingeniously made. I look forward to being able to work on learning how to restore them and returning them to the house. I will be attending a window repair workshop sponsored by Preservation Texas in a few weeks.
 
 
 




 

 

Wednesday, February 18, 2026

Jesse Elnora Tiner Copes Skinner-The Rest of the Story


The Tiner Family
Alanson (Tony), Vinton, Big Mama, Lane, Jesse Lane, Pauline (Polly), Francis (Ottie), 
Wayne, Mary Adele (Mema), Joie (Judy), Nora, Mayme (c. 1930)  

 Elnora, we think, is the second person from the right in the light colored dress. 

In an earlier blog, "Piano Teachers and Learners in Sutherland Springs," I wrote about Elnora Tiner and her father's interest in her piano playing. That interest seems to have continued. The San Antonio Express, 3 July 1901, records the guests at the Southern Hotel in San Antonio. J. L. Tiner and his daughter, Nora (19), are among the guests. Possibly, he is again bringing her to another piano lesson in San Antonio. 

 

Interestingly, among the other guests at the hotel are Mrs. Creech (Emma) and her children Edna (12) and Irvin (7). Irvin is my husband's grandfather. Perhaps the Tiners and the Creeches bumped into each other in the hallway. Here is a photo of the Southern Hotel. This is a copy print of the west side of Main Plaza, accessed through the Portal to Texas History. The east and north facades of the multi-story Southern Hotel are visible above Paul Asher's dry goods store (far left). San Fernando Cathedral stands in the center with several wagons in front. The photo is from The Ernst Wilhelm Raba Photograph Collection. The date on the back of the photo is 1880s.

Elnora is listed in Who's Who Among the Women in San Antonio and Southwest Texas in 1917.  The entry describes her as a teacher of piano, active in the Baptist Church, and a suffragist. 


 She was educated at Coronal Institute in San Marcos and had a special course of Study at Southwestern University at Georgetown.

 Coronal Institute 1907, accessed through the Portal to Texas History 
Private Collection of T. B. Willis

Elnora's interest in music continued throughout her life. A newspaper article in the San Antonio Express, 11 June 1950, p. 24 records an invitation by the St. Louis Institute of Music to attend the summer sessions in Chicago as an honored guest.

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Jesse Elnora Tiner married Jesse Tiner Cope on 5 October 1902. Jesse Lane Tiner's Diary of 1898-1900 records snippets of the very chaperoned budding romance between Nora and Jesse. She and Jesse went to La Vernia together to buy supplies, to a Masonic celebration, a baseball game, Jesse bought her a coat and vest. Lane, Nora, Frances, and Jesse went to the fair in San Antonio on the train for 80¢. Sometimes she went to church in Stockdale with Jesse. Jesse Cope worked for Nora's father. After they married they lived in Karnes City. Jesse ran a cotton gin. He had learned that trade working for Jesse Lane Tiner at his cotton gin in Sutherland Springs.They had two children: Jesse Tiner Cope, Jr. and Johnel Cope. Jesse Tiner Cope was killed in a car wreck 6 May 1940 at the age of 66.

I have not been able to locate her marriage certificate. However, at some point Nora married Joseph H. Skinner, a farmer in Karnes City. He had lost his wife in 1936. Joseph H. Skinner died of heart failure on 9 September 1943 at the age of 73. 

In the 1950 Census, Elnora is living in San Antonio, 727 Gramercy St. She died of ovarian cancer on 23 August 1957, at the age of 75. On her death certificate, her occupation is listed as music teacher. She is buried in the Karnes City Cemetery next to Jesse Cope.

https://images.findagrave.com/photos/2010/103/51088187_127126857636.jpg 

 

 

 


 

Monday, February 9, 2026

Steam Engine Repairs


The 1898-1900 Diary of Jesse Lane Tiner
24-27 July, 1900, p. 262 
 

 Mr. Jesse Tiner ran a cotton gin and a grist mill in Sutherland Springs. On July 24, 1900, he and his son Lane left Sutherland Springs with parts of his steam engine to have it worked over by Alamo Iron Works. He also carried the shaft to his main drive wheel to have it turned round at the bearings. It was worn out of a circle and he couldn't babit it. Of course this is all foreign language to me. It turns out that the inner surface of the steel shell is plated with a coating of bronze, which is in turn coated with a thin layer of Babbitt metal as the bearing surface. The process of laying down this layer of metal is know as Babbitting. He was doing all this to get ready for the ginning season that was soon approaching.

[262]

Tuesday July 24, 1900

Lane & myself started to San

Antonio with part of my Steam

Engine to have it worked over

July 24 ready for the Ginning Season

also carried the shaft to my main

drive wheel to have it turned round

at the bearings it [is] worn out of

a circle & I could not [babit] it.

July 23 Wednesday Lane & my self arrived

 Stuckes  yard 10 oclock pm

last night today I went to the

Alamo Iron Works and made the

necessary arrangement to have my

work done on my Steam Engine

drove my wagon around there and

they unloaded and began work

July 24 Thursday Lane & myself in SA

Alamo Iron Works finished my work

by 5 pm we loaded and started

for home the job cost $2300

I was curious about several people and places that were mentioned in the diary entry.

Who was Mr. Stucke? 

 In the 1880 Census, Charles C. Stucke, a German employed in the sale of cotton and general merchandise, his wife Anna, son Henry, and several daughters are living at 401 Commerce Street. Charles died in 1898. In 1900 Anna Banner Stucke is living on E. Commerce St. Here is their house on the corner of E. Commerce and Bowie.

In the 1900 Census, their son Henry Stucke, a grocer by trade, is living at 521 Goliad St. in San Antonio. The Sanborn map for 1896 shows his residence on Goliad St., near the upper right corner. 

1896 Sanborn Fire Insurance Map of San Antonio


 What is a campyard?

Campyards were primitive camping areas for rural residents bringing goods to market in San Antonio. Jesse and Lane would have spent the night with their wagon in the campyard. There would have possibly been a place for their animals to be fed and housed. You can see on the map above that there was a campyard just down the street from Henry Stucke's House.  Interestingly, the San Antonio Daily Light, 24 July 1894, reports that these campyards could be dangerous, identifying Mr. Stucke's campyard on East Commerce Street. This event was reported six years before Jesse and Lane's visit to the day.

San Antonio Daily Light, 24 July 24 1894

 On this Sanborn map, you can see the campyard referred to in the article. This campyard belonged to Carl Stucke and his wife Anna. Their house was in the corner of the campyard. This is probably where Jesse and Lane spent the night on 24 July 1900.

1896 Sanborn Fire Insurance Map of San Antonio

 Where was the Alamo Iron Works?

The next morning Jesse and Lane took the Steam Engine just down the street to be repaired at the Alamo Iron Works, at 101 Montana.

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from the Alamo Iron Works website
https://www.alamoironworks.com/about-us 

from the Alamo Iron Works website
https://www.alamoironworks.com/about-us 

 

1896 Sanborn Fire Insurance Map of San Antonio


 You can see on this larger map the locations of Henry Stucke's house (34), his father Carl Stucke's house and the campyard (Sheet 19), and the Alamo Iron Works (22). They were all close to E. Commerce Street, which led directly to the Old Sulphur Springs Road and home for Jesse and Lane.

1896 Sanborn Fire Insurance Map of San Antonio


 And the bill for all that work was $23. The cotton gin was all set to be operational in the fall of 1900. Sadly, the more formal diary entries end on 14 August 1900. He had just sent Lane and Joe Brooks to La Vernia to get bagging and ties for 100 Bales of Cotton. He had said work would begin around 15 or 20 of August. We don't know if all his effort on repairing the steam engine paid off.

Sadly, we do know that Jesse Tiner's cotton gin caught fire and burned to the ground on 15 August 1901, at the beginning of ginning season for 1901. He also lost 14 bales of cotton from 1900.

The Daily Express (San Antonio), 6 August 1901


 

 


 






The Move Begins!

  Last week, The Fowler House Moving Company began to move equipment to the present site of the Tiner Hendrick House in Sutherland Springs a...